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you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close loopholes and raise revenue. >> all right. thanks to both. appreciate it. more than two months after the deadly attack in benghazi, investigators are still looking for answers and today, the fbi turned to facebook for help and a possible turning point in syria. the obama administration tonight weighing whether to take a big step and involve arming the rebels. meet the 5-passenger ford c-max hybrid. when you're carrying a lot of weight, c-max has a nice little trait, you see, c-max helps you load your freight, with its foot-activated lift gate. but that's not all you'll see, cause c-max also beats p
you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close...
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i mean i'm in new york at the moment and everyone's worried here about the fiscal deficit. in europe because of the euro crisis but japan when the dog starts barking that he won't be barking he'll be howling the japan has got sovereign debt quibbling to two hundred thirty five percent of its g.d.p. and it's growing. japan has lost two decades if you just look at its consumer electronics sony has lost ninety three percent of its value since the year two thousand show issued a statement a few weeks ago saying it's not sure it will survive and had to get four point five billion dollars of money from two of its banks which will last through only two panasonic you've just lost ten billion dollars all three companies the debt is not considered junk rated as jones so you're very bearish broadly on japan it's interesting because maybe not from the corporate side but in terms of the government side many economists come on this show and say the u.s. is becoming japan in terms of last decades in terms of its debt let me just play a clip and i'll come back to you. but i think you're go
i mean i'm in new york at the moment and everyone's worried here about the fiscal deficit. in europe because of the euro crisis but japan when the dog starts barking that he won't be barking he'll be howling the japan has got sovereign debt quibbling to two hundred thirty five percent of its g.d.p. and it's growing. japan has lost two decades if you just look at its consumer electronics sony has lost ninety three percent of its value since the year two thousand show issued a statement a few...
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we are the one that is are going to be handed down the $16 trillion deficit. it is hard for this to play out. they will come to some sort of a deal. you are going to see them come to a deal. you are going to see them with something sort of like the simpson bowles. >> pam has sent it to the public. that if it goes over the fiscal cliff republicans are prepared to make the middle class pay more tax paying more. and that is a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in isn't it? >> sit a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter is, it isn't true. the taxes on the wealthiest americans, it doesn't address the core problems. the $16 trillion comes from government over spending and we have slow growth. raising the taxes on anybody whether it is on the poor or the other americans doesn't solve the problem. let's get in and figure out what the key problems are and solve those. i made an analogy earlier to giving a kid more allowance. i stopped paying them. >> i mean un believable. so kate, middleton, is in hospital with t
we are the one that is are going to be handed down the $16 trillion deficit. it is hard for this to play out. they will come to some sort of a deal. you are going to see them come to a deal. you are going to see them with something sort of like the simpson bowles. >> pam has sent it to the public. that if it goes over the fiscal cliff republicans are prepared to make the middle class pay more tax paying more. and that is a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in isn't...
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raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don't. >> is that because in your polling day, i always thought that people favored spending reduction and favored smaller government. this may be a mistake that the gop has not emphasized spending cuts. >> they certainly do. most people -- two out of three people want to see a deal that includes both tax hikes and spending cuts. they want to see more spending cuts, but they don't expect spending cuts to come out of this no matter what happens. in fact, the one thing that most people in the middle class believe is that regardless of whether we go over the fiscal cliff or whether a deal is reached to avert that, middle class taxes are going up, and so is spending. so there's a lot of cynicism in this process. >> real quick -- >> that's why the president has the edge. >> bottom line, the republicans are poised to take a fall? is that what your numbers s
raised on those upper income americans, even though only 19% think it will have much of an impact on deficits. it's not about the fiscal crisis. it's about fairness in the minds of most americans. president obama understands that and republicans don't. >> is that because in your polling day, i always thought that people favored spending reduction and favored smaller government. this may be a mistake that the gop has not emphasized spending cuts. >> they certainly do. most people --...
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our deficit is $1 trillion. soledad, that's the problem. republicans have put forward budgets, voted for them, willing to be held accountable. democrats have not. president obama has not. >> you won't vote for them. >> nor have any democrats. >> democrats have voted for those budgets and supported those budgets. >> zero to 610 is the vote total of the last three votes on his last three budgets, 0-610. do you think that's a serious proposal? president obama, show us your plan. >> he can't show you a plan he gave you a plan. his plan is not to repeal obamacare. not going to happen. you lost the election, buddy. >> we are out of time. we need to take bob shrum's coffee away, bring everybody back down. we appreciate your time, senator. i love you hashing the numbers with him. he always comes ready to lay it out. >> political reality, it is a very different world than he is laying out. republicans won't consider raising the top rates, it is not your choice anymore. they are going up unless you make a deal that the president accepts. >>> believe
our deficit is $1 trillion. soledad, that's the problem. republicans have put forward budgets, voted for them, willing to be held accountable. democrats have not. president obama has not. >> you won't vote for them. >> nor have any democrats. >> democrats have voted for those budgets and supported those budgets. >> zero to 610 is the vote total of the last three votes on his last three budgets, 0-610. do you think that's a serious proposal? president obama, show us your...
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we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle class to pay more tax to save 2% of the wealthiest americans paying a little bit more. and that's a very bad position for the republicans to find themselves in, isn't it? >> it certainly is. it's a very bad position for them to find themselves in. the fact of the matter, it isn't true. raising taxes on the wealthiest americans will not only solve the problems. it doesn't even address the core problems. the core problems, $16 trillion in national debt comes from government overspending. and we have sluggish growth. raising the taxes on anybody, whether it's the poor or the middle class or the wealthiest
we're the ones that are going to be handed down the $60 trillion deficit. they will come to a deal. but right now, it's political theater. and it's probably going to look like the simpson-bowles. that will come full-circle again. >> here's a problem the republicans have got themselves into. is obama has been very clever here, the president. i think what he's done is skillfully said to the public, if he goes over the fiscal cliff, the republicans are prepared to make the entire middle...
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we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring. and for the obama administration, the question is, is it in their interest to trade tax cuts for the wealthy? increase for the wealthy for raising the age for eligibility for medicare, for example. i'm not sure that that's a trade that they are eager to make immediately. >> let me show you the side by side comparison. the president wants $1.6 trillion in revenue and republicans want to cap the same deductions for the rich but republicans want to change the age to 67 and change the way they calculate social security payments. i wonder, though, when we look at these numbers, a
we won't be able to achieve a significant balanced approach to the deficit. it does have some revenue in it, even though it's not from tax increases. so what does this opening offer say about where we are in these negotiations? >> well, it seems very difficult to imagine that we're going to be getting to a deal that will handle everything that needs to be addressed before the end of the year. i think the first main thing that needs to be addressed is the question of the tax cuts expiring....
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not the deficit. the debt. i'm trying to get enough money in here so that we can go from 16 to 15 to 14, you see? >> we get rid of a trillion dollars very quickly by taking a half trillion a year. >> bill: what you just said is how you get rid of it. you raise the retirement rate for social security for a couple of years. >> medicare as well. >> bill: not for people who are over 45. under 45 or maybe 48. but the people who bought into the system. >> you are already into the details. and we're losing the parameters here. >> bill: i'm sorry. detail guy. i'm sorry. >> that's terrific. but, until we -- and we have to make one more rule on this. >> bill: what's is that. >> you go to the table. same table. either obama's table or boehner's and you talk straight. >> bill: at the table they're both there and they don't get to go to the bathroom until they get something. >> it's going to be a little faster negotiation than i thought. can we call it with that one addendum the dobbs reilly plan will be. >> bill: will be o
not the deficit. the debt. i'm trying to get enough money in here so that we can go from 16 to 15 to 14, you see? >> we get rid of a trillion dollars very quickly by taking a half trillion a year. >> bill: what you just said is how you get rid of it. you raise the retirement rate for social security for a couple of years. >> medicare as well. >> bill: not for people who are over 45. under 45 or maybe 48. but the people who bought into the system. >> you are already...
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or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only political constituencies that will fight tooth and claw on every deducti deduction, there are some reasons, fairly good reasons why you would want to think twice. you know, are you going to go after home mortgage deduction at a time when the housing industry is trying to get its feet? are you going to go after the exemption on taxation for health insurance? i mean, that's the biggest one, actually. that's like $250 billion a year. but i don't think anybody wants to dive back into that at this point. so, you know, how else are you going to do it? >> arianna, can i just say that -- and this is -- i guess i've been articu
or is it about lessening the deficit? because it doesn't really do a whole lot for the debt or deficit over ten years. >> well, it's about fairness, but it's also about what are the better options? given that the wealthy are really skating by these days. and so how do you collect more revenue from them? and all the various ideas about, well, you cap this deduction, and cap that deduction. there are not only political constituencies that will fight tooth and claw on every deducti...
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. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only one. there's a lot of people on the left and there's quite a few people on the right. i'm glad you're optimistic and a lot of ceos and guys in your position -- if you run a company, you don't need consumers petrified and business people petrified. this is the last thing we need if you run a company. i understand you have a horse in the game. >> but you also have the double trigger. if you go over the cliff, we've got the debt ceiling fight right afterwards. it's not like that's six months down the line. that's in if first month, six weeks of the new year. >> the other thing, dependi
. >> howard dean is a deficit hawk. liberal, but he is a deficit hawk. he doesn't say maybe if we can't get a deal together, maybe we'd be okay with the fiscal cliff. he says that is the best deal for everyone, the best deal for progressives, just to do it. to go back to the clinton era rates. you get rid of three quarters of the deficit just on tax increases at that point. >> and he says you get defense cuts. >> you can't get defense cuts any other way. and he's not the only...
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so we're going to be in the 20s as far as deficits going forward. i think they're taunting markets. i'm hoping we don't wake up one day and markets look at what is going on here and fire right back at them. tracy: you know what? you're not wrong. that is going to happen. between that and the bond bubble bursting we have a lot to look forward to in the new year. gary kaltbaum, kaltbaum capital management. >> my pleasure, thank you. ashley: every deal is a scam, a shell game and he's right. tracy: yeah. ashley: guess what? banks are bouncing back. the third quarter proving very profitable for some of the industry's biggest names but are we out of the woods just yet? gerri willis joins us ahead to talk about that. tracy: first as we do every day at this time of day look how oil is trading. it is basically flat. $88.82 a barrel. we'll be right back. ashley: it is time to make money with charles payne. this hour we're looking at pet health specialists pet med express. charles, how fat is joe is the question? tracy: ah, fat joe. >> fat joe. i told tracy, i don't know if i told you about a
so we're going to be in the 20s as far as deficits going forward. i think they're taunting markets. i'm hoping we don't wake up one day and markets look at what is going on here and fire right back at them. tracy: you know what? you're not wrong. that is going to happen. between that and the bond bubble bursting we have a lot to look forward to in the new year. gary kaltbaum, kaltbaum capital management. >> my pleasure, thank you. ashley: every deal is a scam, a shell game and he's right....
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clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic development in the united states. this is absolutely important we do this. >> i want to ask you about that, in just a moment. let's talk cars. i know you are relaunching the lincoln -- >> please. >> yes, we will. the lincoln brand, making it part of the lincoln motor company, buying a super bowl ad, putting lincoln in the commercials. when you look at this new car, i have to be honest, this is not my grandfather's lincoln. >> there you go. >> this is a new lincoln. was that the point? >> absolutely. and it is just -- it is absolutely the main point because, you know, the lincoln motor company has been associat
clearly our real dwogoal here io come up with a plan that moves us to the budget deficit and to reduce the debt. we need to deal on the revenue side, many vehicles there, to use, and we also need to deal with the expense side. i think it is crafting a solution on both of those that is going to allow us to find a solution. >> all on the table and hopefully they will work and sort of meet in the middle and find that compromise. let's -- >> actually, this is the enabler for economic...
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deficit. but the proposal is quickly dismissed by democrats and the white house. finance ministers try to come to an agreement on the european banking union. and australia's central bank cuts interest rates to match the lowest level since the financial crisis to get ahead of sluggish commodities demand. >>> today dow caught up about 9 points. down nearly half a percent during the session. nasdaq calmed up nearly four points. s&p also currently called up half a point or so. global 300 during the course 69 session so far today is up two points. pretty flat session for europe yesterday. just about in positive territory. means the ftse has been up nine out of the last 11 sessions. this morning just up 0.2%. cac 40 up three quarters of a perks ibex up half of 1%. italian yields still going lower. spanish yields still pretty lower. spain requesting aid for its banking sector. and in germ any, yields just a little bit higher. as far as the dollar index is concerned, down at a one month low. euro-dollar up near the high october 22nd. a little bit more than that. dollar-ye
deficit. but the proposal is quickly dismissed by democrats and the white house. finance ministers try to come to an agreement on the european banking union. and australia's central bank cuts interest rates to match the lowest level since the financial crisis to get ahead of sluggish commodities demand. >>> today dow caught up about 9 points. down nearly half a percent during the session. nasdaq calmed up nearly four points. s&p also currently called up half a point or so. global...
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so our view of the optimal way to deal with this is to not worry about today's fiscal deficit because that's a consequence of where the economy is. absorb that and make a credible commitment bipartisan enshrined in law to deal with this by having a phased in entitlement reform. it's very hard as a practical matter to see that happening without a bond market crisis. >> and we don't have much time, but what would be the key planning of that entitlement reform? >> rolling back the unfunded medicare giveaways of the second george w. bush administration. >> medicare and medicaid combined 20%. so huge. we want to give you a quick sense of the agenda in the u.s. october personal income and intending with the savings rate will be out at 8:30 a.m. eastern. at 10:00 a.m., we'll get the november chicago pmi. expected to show a reading of 50 which is a slight uptick from last month. and an important gauge of the ism data that we'll get later. stick around because straight ahead, a welcome phillip for japan as factory output rises for the first time in four months. is the worst finally over? we'll
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volume since the dot com bubble burst low business investment low were record budget deficits from the government and high unemployment do we actually need a bubble not a case i would make but a very smart gentlemen is here to tell us why they can sometimes be good joining me from our new york studio is dr william janeway he's senior advisor for warburg pincus technology and author of the book doing capitalism in the innovation economy markets speculation and this dave thank you so much for being on the show. very good to be here we're going to have you because you have said and i would definitely agree the bubbles have received bad press whether we're talking about the two live bubble in the sixteen hundreds or whether we're talking about the real estate bubble ahead of two thousand and eight but in some instances you say bubbles can be good why can bubbles be good and what kind of a bubble would we need or might we need now. well the first thing as you've said is that bubbles are boringly common where ever there is a active trading liquid market in an asset from tulip bulbs to real e
volume since the dot com bubble burst low business investment low were record budget deficits from the government and high unemployment do we actually need a bubble not a case i would make but a very smart gentlemen is here to tell us why they can sometimes be good joining me from our new york studio is dr william janeway he's senior advisor for warburg pincus technology and author of the book doing capitalism in the innovation economy markets speculation and this dave thank you so much for...
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however, bearing in mind there are deficits that have to be covered. and there are spending that has to be reached. and in that environment, there is no other alternative but for higher taxes. do you think europeans like paying 40%, 50% taxes? but the alternative is not nearly so pleasant. i've just been to iceland, high taxes, high rate of living. and an economy that is actually recovering better than anywhere else from the financial crisis. so ali velshi, do taxes have to rise? yes, in the united states. >> i think we're agreed on this. richard, always my pleasure to see from you across the pond. richard quest. let's talk about where the taxes sometimes go. infrastructure, superstorm sandy caused overwhelming devastation and exposed dangerous flaws in u.s. infrastructure. coming up next, i'll tell you how investing in infrastructure will not only help get the power back on faster after the next storm but could be the key to jobs and the boom we've all been waiting for. you are watching "your money" on cnn. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves
however, bearing in mind there are deficits that have to be covered. and there are spending that has to be reached. and in that environment, there is no other alternative but for higher taxes. do you think europeans like paying 40%, 50% taxes? but the alternative is not nearly so pleasant. i've just been to iceland, high taxes, high rate of living. and an economy that is actually recovering better than anywhere else from the financial crisis. so ali velshi, do taxes have to rise? yes, in the...
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supply deficit on that market and it sure helps to see the good jobs number. that was another supportive situation. when it comes to the copper market, we are again today. one of the strongest metals in the metal complex, the copper market. that is a good sign for economic growth down road. back to you, cheryl casone and dennis kneale. cheryl: thanks to both of you. breaking news into fox business. want to show you once again live pictures out of cairo, egypt. reuters is reporting protesters have breached a military barricade. that barricade is protecting the presidential palace. the protesters are upset about the president's decree giving him almost unquestioned power over his government but reuters reporting the barrier has been broken. they tried two days ago and were unsuccessful. those protesters have had success. we will keep you posted. fiscal cliff survival kit looking for a save haven, munis, maybe the way to go. we will do you y. dennis: employees of random house in for a lot of green, 50 shades of gray. how the world's currencies are faring against
supply deficit on that market and it sure helps to see the good jobs number. that was another supportive situation. when it comes to the copper market, we are again today. one of the strongest metals in the metal complex, the copper market. that is a good sign for economic growth down road. back to you, cheryl casone and dennis kneale. cheryl: thanks to both of you. breaking news into fox business. want to show you once again live pictures out of cairo, egypt. reuters is reporting protesters...
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should you say you're cutting the deficit $800 billion? the real issue is this. if we're going to get serious about negotiating, okay? we can have programs that aren't on the books anymore now, i understand that we're not spending that money, but when you come to the table to rise above for a compromise, don't bring me air and say, see? i'm not spending this, so it's a savings. it's only a saving when you hear the scissors cutting through it, carl. so people need to get real on both sides of the aisle and address real, not baseline, real savings by cutting spending. back to you. >> rick, is that real money you're cutting up down there? >> you know what? even though this is one of the last bastions of capitalism, those were not real benjamin frank lynn. so, see? i'm ready for negotiation. put me on the team. i just did a lot of cuts that mean nothing. boy, how much did i save us over ten year. >>> thank you, rick. more santelli in the third hour. >>> still ahead, of course, live coverage of president obama's remarks on the fiscal cliff and the negotiations before
should you say you're cutting the deficit $800 billion? the real issue is this. if we're going to get serious about negotiating, okay? we can have programs that aren't on the books anymore now, i understand that we're not spending that money, but when you come to the table to rise above for a compromise, don't bring me air and say, see? i'm not spending this, so it's a savings. it's only a saving when you hear the scissors cutting through it, carl. so people need to get real on both sides of...
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they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the table don't act like we are not budging. >> steve: tim geithner is showing up. boehner and geithner and company come over and you better have a plan. more on this later on. >> gretchen: now the rest of the headlines. gitmodetainees. are they coming back to america now. or feinstein said possibility. the story came to light after fox news turned up a document. feinstein's office put it on line. that was his first executive order when he was elected president. he said he would close gitmo. it is still open. abbas's turn to ask for palestinian statehood. expected to get his wish . he wants palestine to be upda
they will waste your taxpayer dollars and overspend and continue to raise yourr deficit unbelievable numbers that you can't find on yourr calculator. this is not a deal and kicking the can down the road . hear the president to come to a table and find a deal. who believes that? he had four years to do that and did not do it. >> steve: smoosomeone who will not let the president of the united states raise taxes is john boehner. that is not happening. >> brian: he said revenue on the...
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when you look at the debt and deficits he run up. he run up more debt than all of the other presidents combined and maybe the republicans should let the president go ahead and sail off of the cliff and do it for the next generation. keep in mind, somebody may have to pay the bill it may be our children and our children's children. do we want to leave the country in better shape. >> gretchen: they will not have enough pennies in the piggy bank. moments ago kate middleton and prince william left the hospital. she was admitted on monday after suffering from acute morning sickness. kate was treated by the queens doctors. she is headed to kensington palace where she will rest for a extended time. the rogue nation of syria has begun mixing chemical weapons and loading them in to bombs. it is raising fears that president assad will use them on his own people. >> if he would drop the gas, it would kill 100,000 people immediately and in damascus a million people could be affected. it is very serious. >> gretchen: fox news learns that the mili
when you look at the debt and deficits he run up. he run up more debt than all of the other presidents combined and maybe the republicans should let the president go ahead and sail off of the cliff and do it for the next generation. keep in mind, somebody may have to pay the bill it may be our children and our children's children. do we want to leave the country in better shape. >> gretchen: they will not have enough pennies in the piggy bank. moments ago kate middleton and prince william...
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marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her as well. we know the challenges that we confront here in congress on a whole range of issues which are sometimes broadly described under the umbrella of the terminology, fiscal cliff -- when we confront those difficult challenges, we have to ask ourselves a couple of basic questions. one of the basic questions we must ask is, what will be the result and will be the impact as it relates to middle income families? what will happen to them in the midst of all these tough issues we have to work out? we know there is broad agreement that going over the so-called fiscal c
marchese said tax increases are necessary to reduce the deficit. senator bob casey of pennsylvania chaired the hearing. >> the committee will come to order. we want to thank everyone for being here today. i did not have a chance to personally greet our witnesses, but i will have time to do that later. i want to thank both of our witnesses for being here. i will have an opening statement that i will make, and then i will turn it to dr. burgess. i know that vice chairman brady will be her...
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that still leaves a trillion dollars deficit. get serious. former ways and means committee chairman congressman bill archer joins us tonight at 7:00 eastern. stuart: well, the tax on dividends is going to go up next year. maybe by 3.8%. maybe by a whole lot more. depending on the fiscal cliff. larry ellison, top guy at oracle, he had an early dividend payout. he got a check for almost 200 million dollars. he saves 56 million by not getting that money next year. liz? liz: yeah, this is true for a lot of companies. it's the insiders who own stock in the companies that are making these moves. the so-called 1%. you know it is within their rights to do it. but what bothers me are those who say we must pay our fair share, the executives who are for, you know, raising taxes, that we have to sacrifice, and then they are avoiding higher taxes in obama care, as you point out over the break, nothing to do with the fiscal cliff, it is with health reform that they are avoiding. david: and these are the same people, the people who say we should pay more mo
that still leaves a trillion dollars deficit. get serious. former ways and means committee chairman congressman bill archer joins us tonight at 7:00 eastern. stuart: well, the tax on dividends is going to go up next year. maybe by 3.8%. maybe by a whole lot more. depending on the fiscal cliff. larry ellison, top guy at oracle, he had an early dividend payout. he got a check for almost 200 million dollars. he saves 56 million by not getting that money next year. liz? liz: yeah, this is true for...
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we're running such a huge deficit. unless he's a poker player and this is a bid to throw us off pace, that's not a serious proposal. we're not dealing with this seriously at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and he owes the population a lot more than he's showing. >> neil: adam, i'm worried that they make ahristmas tree out of this and throwing more and more ornaments because it's the next legislation that we're cobbling together we might as well put some spending in there. in this case, a minimum of 50 billion others like chuck schumer talked not trying to find a wayo wiggle half a trillion dollars for another construction effort here, and on and on and on. >> well, of course, unfortunately, neil, i should say for better or worse, the way you're describing it is in fact the way it works, that's how the christmas tree ets built and-- >> you don't find it ironic, part of a year end fiscal cliff avoider meant to address spending includes measures that hike spending? >> well, you'll getting there. i mean, ihink it's curious to-- >
we're running such a huge deficit. unless he's a poker player and this is a bid to throw us off pace, that's not a serious proposal. we're not dealing with this seriously at 1600 pennsylvania avenue and he owes the population a lot more than he's showing. >> neil: adam, i'm worried that they make ahristmas tree out of this and throwing more and more ornaments because it's the next legislation that we're cobbling together we might as well put some spending in there. in this case, a minimum...
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rajoy has warned it will achieve the deficit target agreed with the eu. he said he couldn't guarantee there would nobody further spending cuts and he would not have any doubts about using the ecb's omt program, though of course with yields where they are at the moment, they don't have to. in fact we spoke to patrick garvey a little bit earlier today that suggests that the risk-on theme for debt will continuum at least the end of january. remember, spain will have another batch of pre-funding for 2013 later this week on thursday. otherwise that's it for today's edition. coming up, the first "squawk box" of the week and countdown to the open of markets state side. whatever happens, we hope you have a profitable day. [ male announcer ] this december, remember -- what starts with adding a friend... ♪ ♪ ...could end with adding a close friend. ♪ the lexus december to remember sales event is on, offering some of our best values of the year. tis the pursuit of perfection. >>> good morning. today's top stories. fiscal cliff hanger. there's now less than a m
rajoy has warned it will achieve the deficit target agreed with the eu. he said he couldn't guarantee there would nobody further spending cuts and he would not have any doubts about using the ecb's omt program, though of course with yields where they are at the moment, they don't have to. in fact we spoke to patrick garvey a little bit earlier today that suggests that the risk-on theme for debt will continuum at least the end of january. remember, spain will have another batch of pre-funding...
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last year the deficit was 7.9%. this year with the apf coupons it is forecast to be 6.9%, but that excludes the aspect of the royal mail pension access. it will fall to 5.2% the year after, 4.2 president in 2015-'16, before reaching 1.6% in 2017-'18. in 2009-'10 the country was borrowing 159 billion pounds. this year we are borrowing 108 billion pounds. that is forecast to fall to 99 billion next year, 88 billion the year after, then 73 billion in 2015-'16 and 49 billion and 31 billion in the two years around that. these are the central forecasts published by the opr with the asset purchase facility cash transfer included. when the transfer is excluded, as we show in the document, the deficit also falls from 7.9% last year to 7.7% this year, then 6.9% next year and falls in every single year after that. and cash borrowing falls in every year as well. now, there are those who have been saying that the deficit was going up this year. indeed, i think i heard it in prime minister's questions. but any way you present the
last year the deficit was 7.9%. this year with the apf coupons it is forecast to be 6.9%, but that excludes the aspect of the royal mail pension access. it will fall to 5.2% the year after, 4.2 president in 2015-'16, before reaching 1.6% in 2017-'18. in 2009-'10 the country was borrowing 159 billion pounds. this year we are borrowing 108 billion pounds. that is forecast to fall to 99 billion next year, 88 billion the year after, then 73 billion in 2015-'16 and 49 billion and 31 billion in the...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. i do think to focus and our biggest driver is going forward,social security, medicare, to on them. will be more important in the number on discretionary spending or tax cuts themselves. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. i do think to focus and our biggest driver is going forward,social security, medicare, to on them. will be more important in the number on discretionary spending or tax cuts themselves. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? further. i...
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programs like medicare but slowing down the growth in the programs because they are the big drivers of the deficit and raising more out of the revenue, out of the tax system. whether you call iterates or reform over whatever you call it, and each those touches the third rail of the parties, we have to get together and say, basically, we have to do something right for the country. if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing that could happen. the market would go up and we would be liking like our future was brighter than a lot of americans think it is today. >>neil: are you smoking anything at all? >>guest: drinking a little coffee. >>neil: quickly, senator, i know you have to go the congressional black caucus has come out with a statement saying, really, leave entitlements alone and focus on hiking taxes. that is the gist of the statement. what do you think of that? >>guest: it does not do it. hiring some people -- higher income people pay a disproportional share of the taxes. and they should. but if you bring the rates back to
programs like medicare but slowing down the growth in the programs because they are the big drivers of the deficit and raising more out of the revenue, out of the tax system. whether you call iterates or reform over whatever you call it, and each those touches the third rail of the parties, we have to get together and say, basically, we have to do something right for the country. if we had a bipartisan, avoid the fiscal cliff and pay down the debt type of agreement it would be the best thing...
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stuart: you're saying, oh, he left a deficit. it was congressional spending that led it a deficit. let's get back to the original argument. if you now, right now, lowered tax rates you would increase revenue to the treasury. >> you and i disagree on that. you and i disagree on that and i know my history and-- >> you think that by imposing higher tax rates, massive tax increase. >> no, no, not on everyone, not on everyone. stuart: tell me how you're going to get growth when you raise taxes by a trillion 6. go. >> are you talking about deficit reduction or growth. if you're talking about growth. stuart: growth in the economy. >> of course it's a combination of things and it's a matter of-- i believe na a bigger stimulus, for example. stuart: do you believe if we put this plan, the president's plan into practice now. >> i don't think the president's plan will be put into practice. stuart: do you think that we'd get 4 or 5% growth? >> i don't think it's a realistic plan, i said it from day one. stuart: and if we raise taxes, that's the heart of this thing, if we raise taxes do you thin
stuart: you're saying, oh, he left a deficit. it was congressional spending that led it a deficit. let's get back to the original argument. if you now, right now, lowered tax rates you would increase revenue to the treasury. >> you and i disagree on that. you and i disagree on that and i know my history and-- >> you think that by imposing higher tax rates, massive tax increase. >> no, no, not on everyone, not on everyone. stuart: tell me how you're going to get growth when you...
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. >> federal employees that i represent have offered up $103 billion to the federal deficit. >> reporter: jd cox of the american federation of government employees say they can't afford anymore cuts and going over the fiscal cliff will impact millions of americans. >> there would be a lot of federal employees who would be furloughed or riffed and would lose their jobs. >> reporter: economists say the combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases that will kick in january 1st if congress and the president don't reach an agreement could plunge the country back into recession. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >> the house is scheduled to formally adjourn by the end of the year on december 14th but house majority leader says they will stay in session until a cred credible solution is worked out. >>> it could be a big day in the battle o of same sex mainly. the -- marriage. the justices are being asked to overturn a lower court ruling that the prop 8 ban on gay marriage is unconstitutional. they may decide to hear the case or they could let the ruling by the lower court s
. >> federal employees that i represent have offered up $103 billion to the federal deficit. >> reporter: jd cox of the american federation of government employees say they can't afford anymore cuts and going over the fiscal cliff will impact millions of americans. >> there would be a lot of federal employees who would be furloughed or riffed and would lose their jobs. >> reporter: economists say the combination of automatic spending cuts and tax increases that will kick...
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>> we have an enormous deficit problem in the united states. nobody's dealt with it since bill clinton was president of the united states. there are a number of things we're going to have to do in order to meet our deficit. we're going to have to both raise taxes and cut spending. one of the areas we must cut spending is defense. there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a lot of bipartisan defense spending. for example, the defense authorization bill that just passed yesterday in the senate gave the pentagon $17 billion more than they asked for. so to think that any industry or any taxpayer or any group of people who depend on government spending can be exempted from the serious problem that we have that's caused by this deficit is a mistake. everybody is going to have to pay for this. >> dawn, right or wrong, the defense industry has this reputation of being bloated, overcharging. are we at a point where we could afford to make c
>> we have an enormous deficit problem in the united states. nobody's dealt with it since bill clinton was president of the united states. there are a number of things we're going to have to do in order to meet our deficit. we're going to have to both raise taxes and cut spending. one of the areas we must cut spending is defense. there hasn't been serious cuts in defense in 30 years. the defense industry is well positioned. they have plants in something in over 300 districts. there's a...
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i think we'll lay a framework for the deficit reduction we're going to do in the future. we're not going to cross the "and dot the ayes, but them we'll throw it in and fig that you are out. if we do those things i think we'll solve the uncertainty issue to a significant enough degree and our economy will start to gain traction. >> schieffer: may ayou'll be last word. >> i don't think we'll go off the cliff. i think politician of both sides understand it's just not worth it to bet the country on this. i do worry as they spend the next year or six months working out the details, there is going to be such extreme pressures on both sides not to make the hard choices we know has to be part of a real keel so i think it's important there are pressures to keep on so if they don't come up with solution through the committee there are ways to make sure we get the savings. the u.s. has the benefit of being a safe haven. we have more time than other countries but we will lose that confidence if we don't start to show our political system can function and approximately solve these pro
i think we'll lay a framework for the deficit reduction we're going to do in the future. we're not going to cross the "and dot the ayes, but them we'll throw it in and fig that you are out. if we do those things i think we'll solve the uncertainty issue to a significant enough degree and our economy will start to gain traction. >> schieffer: may ayou'll be last word. >> i don't think we'll go off the cliff. i think politician of both sides understand it's just not worth it to...
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it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think they are hard proposals to make because they're substantive. to achieve fiscal sustainability in the context of $3 trillion in 10-year deficit reduction, i think we need to do more. >> looking at the republican plan and the present proposal, do you see any common ground? -- and the president's proposal, do you see any common ground? >> the common ground is that we're looking at the same proposals. cbo has scored a number of different approaches. i also think there is no general agreement in the context of the current discussion, we will not make any major structural changes
it does not solve the deficit. it is not a serious deficit proposal. the credit rating agencies are looking for a plan that lowers the gdp to debt ratio. i do not think there is a magic number. social security, medicare, to find a sustainable path for word on them. do you think the president's plan adequately addresses the sustainability of medicare and social security? >> >> i think he needs to go further. i do not think it is enough. i believe the proposals are good ones. i think...
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which hasn't been better actually the trade deficit is actually significantly down but not all. we have had some that have become more competitive that is the front on which we need to work. the political debate hasn't kept up with the reality it's no longer the quarter of that anymore. it's the broadest of countries some that need to be worked on and the next president isn't just china bashing but what do we need to do have a world that is everybody trying to run a trade surplus which the government believes it is possible. [laughter] >> then there is this issue of trade and income inequality. and there's a similar level that presumably had relatively little to do with the distribution. if you make -- canada sends assembled cars back to the united states that is and when to be making a big difference to the deficiency. now we do a lot in the countries that are substantially lower income and are selling less labor-intensive products that are increasing the inequality and come through the skull the differentials and it's not simply put part of this revolution ourself. the trade i
which hasn't been better actually the trade deficit is actually significantly down but not all. we have had some that have become more competitive that is the front on which we need to work. the political debate hasn't kept up with the reality it's no longer the quarter of that anymore. it's the broadest of countries some that need to be worked on and the next president isn't just china bashing but what do we need to do have a world that is everybody trying to run a trade surplus which the...
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job creation is essential to reducing the deficit. we firmly believe if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. you can grow the economy and reduce the deficit. it's all together. and that is attested to by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it, that has come together. you can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction and fiscal soundness without having revenues be on the table. i'd like to yield to the assistant leader for his comments. >> thank you, madame leader. i think that this meeting was very, very fruitful. it simply reminds us -- >> we are listening to commentary after nancy pelosi's meeting with timothy geithner. as you heard, ms. pelosi continuing to stick to her guns in terms of raising revenue as well as spending cuts. we don't have the clarity this market is looking for. that is, where will the cuts be? where will the revenue be? we're still waiting on compromise. as soon as we get some indication of that compromise, we'll bring it to you. maybe there's hope, meanwhile, for the twinkie. hos
job creation is essential to reducing the deficit. we firmly believe if you want to reduce the deficit, create jobs. you can grow the economy and reduce the deficit. it's all together. and that is attested to by every bipartisan task force, commission, you name it, that has come together. you can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction and fiscal soundness without having revenues be on the table. i'd like to yield to the assistant leader for his comments. >> thank you, madame...
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the deficit and debt will improve as 34%. but the one thing they are certain is that taxes will increase. and in the next four years how it affected you think the federal government will be on each of the following issues. we read a list of these issues, we rotated those. this is how it basically stacks up. ensuring long-term future of entire programs such as social security and medicare, 65%. 64% creating jobs, 64% improving public education, growing the economy, creating a business environment that allows for innovation. lowering the federal deficit actually false down to 40. not as much confidence there as a part on the other side. we been said the training faces a number of challenges including but not limited to large budget deficits, national debt, slower economic recovery, high unemployment, deep political divide on many issues. do you believe we will overcome these challenges in the foreseeable future as we've done in the past, or do you think these are unique set of challenges that are so serious that we might not be
the deficit and debt will improve as 34%. but the one thing they are certain is that taxes will increase. and in the next four years how it affected you think the federal government will be on each of the following issues. we read a list of these issues, we rotated those. this is how it basically stacks up. ensuring long-term future of entire programs such as social security and medicare, 65%. 64% creating jobs, 64% improving public education, growing the economy, creating a business...
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but anyway, the deficit is clearly not going to achieve getting rid of that in a five-year period. many estimates believe that in 2013-2014, the next fiscal year, it's going to be around 7%. that's better than the 11% inherited by this government, but will be a couple points worse than greece and spain. so that's a big negative for george osbourne. another one will be getting the percentage of debt compared with gdp in the country, getting that down within a five-year period, getting it syncing in the right direction. he thought it was going to peek around 75%, 75%. it looks like it could go up even further. so let's see what he says on that front today. in terms of options, he has very few options indeed because this is a government which as we know has set its fallout on plan a. and yet, are we seeing real austerity? i'm not entirely sure. government borrowing this fiscal year so far in the five months that we have figures for already is 26.7% higher than the same period a year ago. the idea originally this year was for flat spending and then getting it down there after. and he's
but anyway, the deficit is clearly not going to achieve getting rid of that in a five-year period. many estimates believe that in 2013-2014, the next fiscal year, it's going to be around 7%. that's better than the 11% inherited by this government, but will be a couple points worse than greece and spain. so that's a big negative for george osbourne. another one will be getting the percentage of debt compared with gdp in the country, getting that down within a five-year period, getting it syncing...
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it would make a difference in the deficits. and then we'll talk revenue. >> larry we're not suggesting dropping out, either. >> neil pattell thank you very much. senator kay bailey hutchson appreciate it. >>> next up lipitor and the fallout. the people who take the popular drug need to know. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500 locations, where our dedicated support teams help you know more so your money can do more. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our teams have the information you want when you need it. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's another reason more investors are saying... those surprising little still make you take notice. there are a million reasons why. but your erectile dysfunction that could be a question of blood flow. cialis for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be
it would make a difference in the deficits. and then we'll talk revenue. >> larry we're not suggesting dropping out, either. >> neil pattell thank you very much. senator kay bailey hutchson appreciate it. >>> next up lipitor and the fallout. the people who take the popular drug need to know. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, we believe the more you know, the better you trade. so we have ongoing webinars and interactive learning, plus, in-branch seminars at over 500...
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the fiscal deficits are unsustainable. there's very little work done for reforming the economy structurally. so we don't feel good about them. we have been underweight everything in europe for a long time. >> you want to continue to be underweight in europe given the debt crisis? is that the reason? >> we have about $600 billion of assets. we invest them in the long term. the long-term characteristics of economies are very important. we believe eurozone economies are in structural decline and deficit. >> let me ask you about where you have been investing. i know you've been investing a lot in asia. the emerging markets have been an area of promise for you. but they've slowed a lot. do you still want to put your money there given the fact china slowed, indonesia. some of these hot spots are nowhere they were a couple years ago. >> we grew more than 30% in indonesia. what's happening with us is that we cater to the middle classes, and the fact there are more and more asians in the middle class is, if you wish, not correlated
the fiscal deficits are unsustainable. there's very little work done for reforming the economy structurally. so we don't feel good about them. we have been underweight everything in europe for a long time. >> you want to continue to be underweight in europe given the debt crisis? is that the reason? >> we have about $600 billion of assets. we invest them in the long term. the long-term characteristics of economies are very important. we believe eurozone economies are in structural...
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we need to show the world we can get our economy under control, reduce the deficit, and begin to show leadership in various areas of new technology that demonstrated here to the rest of the world. kohl will always be there. -- coal is always going to be there. there's lots of work there. all the sales will help, i think, of leverage our capability and give us more options. >> let me bring you in. 92% of american transportation is run on petroleum. with this new landscape for energy production of, how are we doing on diversifying different kinds of things that are running our transportation? >> so far, it is going slow. something that was deeply focused on was something note senator alexander said earlier. we need to find more and use less. i think you're asking about the use less part. the extension of the changing fuel efficiency standards was one thing, but we believe fervently in the need to diversify away from using petroleum for transportation and given that it represents 70% of our use of petroleum to begin with. with the change in technology and the access to so much homegrown
we need to show the world we can get our economy under control, reduce the deficit, and begin to show leadership in various areas of new technology that demonstrated here to the rest of the world. kohl will always be there. -- coal is always going to be there. there's lots of work there. all the sales will help, i think, of leverage our capability and give us more options. >> let me bring you in. 92% of american transportation is run on petroleum. with this new landscape for energy...
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bush inherited a surplus and left with a massive deficit. didn't monitor the financial system and so on. the most important point is david's right about, which is there's no such thing as a presidential referendum election. i've covered ten of these and they've all been choices. why? because these two candidates live in everybody's living rooms. people make a judgment about their character -- >> reagan was partially positive, just anti -- >> oh that became a choice election after reagan appeared in that one debate against carter and people said, hey, he isn't so bad. i have a choice. >> one of the other players, besides the two candidates was bill clinton, the former president, don't think anybody made a better case of making the case for obama than bill clinton. at the convention a critical moment when he explained the arithmetic of what obama inherited. >> in tampa the republican argument against the president's re-election was pretty simple, pretty snappy. it went something like this. we left him a total mess. he hadn't cleaned it up fast
bush inherited a surplus and left with a massive deficit. didn't monitor the financial system and so on. the most important point is david's right about, which is there's no such thing as a presidential referendum election. i've covered ten of these and they've all been choices. why? because these two candidates live in everybody's living rooms. people make a judgment about their character -- >> reagan was partially positive, just anti -- >> oh that became a choice election after...